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QUESTIONS ARISING FROM 134th. MEETING – 27/5/22
(the record of earlier meetings can be downloaded from the main Circulus page as can the version of Ciceronis Filius with illustrations added. The illustrated text of Genesis is available on the Genesis page, of Kepler's Somnium on the Somnium page and of Nutting's Ad Alpes on the Ad Alpes page)

The usual variety of food was ordered, including melongēna contūsa (baigan bharta, mashed aubergine or egg-plant). The various words for this vegetable were originally discussed in the record of our October 2015meeting and the discussion periodically re-posted. Here, again, is the tangled story:
 
   The aubergine (茄子.botanical name: solānum melongēna). which is related to both the potato (sōlānum tuberōsum)         and the tomato (lycopersicum), seems to have been domesticated independently in East and South Asia and to have             been brought into Europe by the Arabs in the early Midle Ages. Its Sanskrit name vātiṅgaṇa (वातिङ्गण), itself borrowed             from a Dravidian original, has become baigan (बैंगन )in Hindi and bhantaa (भन्टा) in Nepali. The Sanskrit became in                 Persian bādinjān, which was transformed in Byzantine Greek into μελιτζάνα melitzána under the influence of the Greek         μελανο- 'black'. This in turn was adopted into Latin as melongēna. The Arabs also borrowed the Persian word and this,       prefixed by the article `al’, gave Catalan alberginia, whence the French and British English names. The Italians changed         the Latin into melanzana, and re-interpreted this as mela insana, whence an obsolete English name for the vegetable –           mad-apple. The Americans boringly broke the chain by calling it just `egg plant’. Finally, the Indian English name brinjal       is a back-formation from the Portuguese berinjela! For more details see                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggplant#Names_and_etymology 
 
Hillary, who is applying to Cambridge University, asked about the various colleges and Joe, a Cambridge alumnus  himself, thought there was not too much to choose between them in terms of general atmosphere but that Peterhouse had the reputation of being rather right wing.
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​                                                                   Location of the Finno-Ugric languages
                                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Ugric_languages
 
John suggested that noun morphology in Finnish,  a member of the Finno-Ugric family, was more complex than in Latin because the former had 15 cases compared to Latin’s 5.  However, Joe pointed out that the Finnish system was more akin to agglutination than inflexion in the true sense, since each case was normally marked by a single suffix that could be used with any noun. The suffixes are thus comparable to the postpositions found in languages like Japanese and Nepali.
 
Chris commented on the ongoing de-internationalisation of HK, as the number of expats is dropping, particularly because of the onerous  quarantine system which HK, following mainland China’s lead, has retained whilst the rest of the world, including our arch-rival, Singapore, have switched to a policy of living with the virus.
 
Chris also complained about the use of the term `Catholic’ to refer to Christianity’s largest denomination. The fuller name `Roman Catholic’ is more appropriate as other denominations also claim to be part of the `Catholic’’(i.e. universal) Church. This applies particularly to what is known as the Anglo-Catholic (High Church) wing of the churches of the Anglican Communion such as the Church of England itself and the Episcopalian Church in North America). Anglo-Catholic beliefs and liturgical practices are closer to the Roman Catholics than are those of the Evangelical wing of Anglicanism. John had a friend at university, a very `High’ Anglican, who had once taught in a Glasgow school. Sectarian tensions have traditionally been quite severe there and, on his first day, he was asked in class `Sir, are you a Catholic or a Protestant?’ He proudly (and accurately!) replied, `Both!’
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High Altar, Anglo-Catholic Church of the Good Shepherd (Rosemont, Pennsylvania)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Catholicism
 
In Hong Kong not only the term `Catholic’ but also `Christian’ is often used too restrictively. From the start of missionary work in China only the Protestants used a transliteration of `Christ’ as part of their Chinese name for Christianity, 基督教 (Geidak gaau (Mandarin Jidu jiao), `Christ teaching’), whilst the Roman Catholics, in line with the Jesuits’ accommodationist approach to Chinese culture, used the term 天主教 (Tinjyu gaau (Mandarin Tianzhu jiào), `Lord of Heaven teaching’). This resulted in 基督教 being used as an equivalent both for `Christianity’ and `Protestantism’, even though the latter should strictly be translated as基督教新教 (`Christ teaching new teaching’). The result in Hong Kong English is utterances like `I transferred from a Catholic to a Christian school’, which sounds nonsensical in most parts of the world!
 
One of us recounted his experience running an Indian company at the request of the owner, an Indian who had been badly injured in a car crash to run company for him. Following the example of Henry Ford, who boosted  his workers’ incomes so they would be able to but his products, he raised the pay of his, largely female  workforce but virtually all the women whose salary he had tripled quit after a couple of years because they now have enough money to live on for some time. The original owner took over again but he had suffered brain damage in the car accident and kept suddenly punching people in the face. Inevitably, he ended up crashing the company.
 
We briefly discussed again the SECUNDINUS CACOR (`Secundinus the shitter’) inscription from Hadrian’s Wall illustrated in the record of our April meeting. Roman activities around the Wall and also their various forays north into Caledonia have left an extensive archaeological record and there is an interesting lecture on marching camps in Scotland at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SqAAUCJYU8. Sites probably occupied in the 80s A.D. by Gnaeus Julius Agricola, the best-documented governor of Roman Britain, are shown on the map below. An interlinear translation of the biography of Agricola by his son-in-law, the historian Tacitus, can be found at ​https://linguae.weebly.com/tacitus.html

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   Possible camps used during Agricola’s campaigns in Scotland – he will have viewed Ireland from either                                                                            Galloway or the Mull of Kintyre
                                                       https://guard-archaeology.co.uk/GALNews/?p=314
 
We read from c.17 in Book 1 of Eutropius’ Breviarium to chapter 5 in Book 2.  This includes references to the `military tribunes with consular power’ who, from 444 B.C. onwards, were sometimes elected to take charge of the state in place of consuls. Livy and other later historians thought the system was intended to meet plebeian demands for a share of political power without actually admitting them to the consulship, the aim may have been only to meet changing administrative and military needs as all the tribunes down to 400 B.C. were actually patricians. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribuni_militum_consulari_potestate 
 
The word tribūnus itself is cognate with tribūs and the military tribunes may originally have been the officers in charge of the fighting men from the three original tribes.  Before the Marian reforms at the end of the 2nd. Century B.C.the six military tribunes for each legion, who have to be distinguished from the tribūnī mīlitum consulārī potestāte just discussed, held command in turn – two at a time – with appointments originally by the senate but the plebs by 311 B.C.gaining the right to elect four out of the six. From Marius’s time onwards the commander of a legion was a legātus with the tribunes as his staff officers, The senior among these, the so-called broad-striped tribune, was actually the second-in-command of the legion but his narrow-striped colleagues had no real authority.
 
We also briefly touched on the contrast between explicit (or declarative)  and implicit memory, the former involving a conscious effort to recall and the second an automatic process. Research in this area often involves collection of data about mentally impaired persons. In one rather unethical experiment, a researcher concealed a drawing pin in his hand and then shook hands with patients suffering from a loss of declarative memory, When the same researcher approached the same patients later they refused to shake his hand but could not explain why. Neurological damage often affects second rather than native language ability but there is a recorded case of a Nepali whose condition resulted in the loss of the Nepali he had acquired naturally as a child yet the retention of the English he had toiled to learn at school.


EUTROPIUS I
 
[17] Sequentī annō cum in Algidō monte[1] ab urbe duodecimō fermē mīliāriō Rōmānus
    In-following  year   when on  Algidus Mountain from city  at-twelfth    roughly   mile-stone  Roman
obsīderētur exercitus, L. Quīntius Cincinnātus dictātor est factus, quī agrum quattuor
was-under-siege    army   Lucius  Quintius  Cincinnatus    dictator  was  made  who  field    of-four
iūgerum[2]  possidēns manibus suīs colēbat. Is cum in opere et arāns esset inventus, sūdōre    
iugera possessing with-hands own was-cultivating he when at  work and  ploughing was found   with-sweat
dētersō togam praetextam[3] accēpit et caesīs        hostibus līberāvit exercitum.
wiped-away  toga   bordered     accepted and having-been-slaughtered enemies  freed     army
 
[18] Annō trecentēsimō et alterō ab urbe conditā[4] imperium cōnsulāre cessāvit et prō duōbus
    in-year  three-hundredth   and  second from   city founded     rule      consular     ceased  and instead-of two
cōnsulibus decem factī sunt, quī summam potestātem habērent, decemvirī nōminātī. Sed cum
consuls        ten    made  were  who  supreme    power       should-have  decemvirs   named    but although
prīmō annō bene ēgissent, secundō ūnus ex hīs, Ap. Claudius, Virginīī cuiusdam, quī honestīs
in-first  year   well  they-had-acted  in-second one from them Appius Claudius of-Virginius a-certain who with-honourable
iam stīpendiīs contrā Latīnōs in monte Algidō mīlitārat,[5] fīliam virginem corrumpere voluit;
already  service    against  Latins  on Mount     Algidus  had-fought     daughter   virgin   to-violate  wanted
quam pater occīdit, nē stuprum ā decemvirō sustinēret, et regressus ad mīlitēs mōvit
and-her  father killed    lest  dishonour from decemvir  she-suffered   and  retuning   to   soldiers caused
tumultum. Sublāta est decemvirīs potestās ipsīque      damnātī sunt.
revolt       taken-away was  from-decemvirs  power and-they-themselves  condemned  were
 
[19] Annō trecentēsimō et quīntō decimō ab urbe conditā[6] Fīdēnātēs contrā Rōmānōs
    In-year   three-hundredth and     fifteenth    from  city   founded  the-Fidenates  against   Rome 
rebellāvērunt. Auxilium hīs praestābant Vēientēs et rēx Vēientium Tolumnius. Quae ambae
rebelled             help     to-them  provided   the-Veians and   king  of-Veians   Tolumnius  these   two
cīvitātēs tam vīcīnae urbī[7] sunt, ut Fīdēnae sextō, Vēī octāvō decimō mīliāriō absint.
cities       so    close  to-Rome were   that   Fidenae  at-sixth Vei    at-eighteenth    mile-stone are-distant
Coniūnxērunt sē hīs et Volscī. Sed Mam. Aemiliō dictātōre et L. Quīntiō Cincinnātō magistrō
Joined  themselves to-them also Voscians but with-Mamercus Aemilus i dictator and Lucius Quintius Cincinnatus master
equitum vīctī etiam rēgem perdidērunt. Fīdēnae captae    et excīsae.
of-cavalry  defeated also  king     they-lost     Fidnae    captured [was] and   destroyed
 
[20] Post vīgintī deinde annōs Veientānī rebellāvērunt.[8] Dictātor contrā ipsōs[9] missus est
     After   twenty  then     years   the Veians    rebelled       dictator      against them       sent  was
Fūrius Camillus, quī prīmum eōs vīcit aciē,   mox etiam cīvitātem diū obsīdēns[10] cēpit,
Furius   Camillus    who    first  them  defeated in-battle  soon also    city  for-long-time   besieging captured

NOTES
[1] Mons Algidus, a ridge forming part of the edge of an extinct volcanic crater, is at the south-eastern edge of the Alban hills and crossed by a narrow, strategic pass through which the Via Latina was later built. The battle was fought in 458 B.C. (Eutropius’s sequentī annō is an error) against the Aequi and in support of Rome’s ally Tusculum.
[2] i.e. just under 3 acres. The noun iūgerum is 2nd. declension on the singular and 3rd in the plural.
[3] A crimson-bordered toga was worn by magistrates as well as by free-born males who had not yet come of age.
[4] 302 A.U.C corresponds to 452 B.C., since the year of Rome’s foundation (753) counted as year 1, not year zero. However, the first decemvirs, tasked with codifying Roman laws, were chosen in 451. Appius Claudius Crassus was either killed or committed suicide in 449 after the decemvirs, who tried to stay in power without an election, had been overthrown. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decemviri and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appius_Claudius_Crassus
[5] mīlitārat is a contraction of pluperfect mīlitāverat.
[6] 439 or 438 B.C.
[7] Eutropius normally uses urbs to refer to Rome itself and cīvitās for other cities.
[8] The war against Veii actually began in 406 B.C. and Camillus, though not in charge throughout, led the final taking of the city in 396. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Furius_Camillus
[9] ipsōs is used here where no special emphasis is involved and classical Latin would have used eōs, illōs or hōs.
[10] This use of the present participle obsidēns for an action which preceded that of the main verb cēpit  is untypical of classical Latin which would have preferred a perfect passive participle: cīvitātem diū obsessam cēpit

 antīquissimam Ītaliaeque dītissimam. Post eam cēpit et   Faliscōs, nōn minus nōbilem
oldest               and-of-Italy   richest    after  this  he-captured also  Falerii   not    lesss    noble
cīvitātem.  Sed commōta est eī invidia, quasi praedam male dīvīsisset, damnātusque ob eam
city            but  aroused  as against-him resentment as-if  booty   badly   he-had-divided and—condemned for this
causam et expulsus cīvitāte. Statim Gallī Sēnōnēs ad urbem vēnērunt et vīctōs Rōmānōs
reason    and   expelled from-city   at-once  Gallic  Senones  to    city    came   and  defeated  Romans
ūndecimō mīliāriō ā Rōmā apud flūmen Alliam secūtī etiam urbem occupāvērunt.[1] Neque
at-nineteenth mile-stone from   Rome  at   river   Allia  having-followed even   city    occupied     nor
dēfendī quicquam nisi Capitōlium potuit; quod cum diū   obsēdissent   et iam Rōmānī
be-defended  anything   except  Capitoline  could  which when for-long-time they-had-besieged and  now  Romans
famē labōrārent,   acceptō     aurō nē Capitōlium obsidērent, recessērunt. Sed ā 
from-hunger were-suffering having-been-accepted-gold so-not  Capitoline they-would-besiege they-withdrew but by 
Camillō, quī in vīcīnā cīvitāte exulābat, Gallīs superventum est gravissimēque vīctī sunt. Posteā 
Camillus who  in  neighbouring city  was-in-exile upon-Gauls   fallen  was   and-very-heavily defeated they-were later  
tamen etiam secūtus eōs Camillus ita    cecīdit, ut et aurum, quod hīs datum fuerat, et omnia, 
however also  having-followed them Camillus in-such-a-way struck that both gold   which to-them  given  had-been and  all    quae cēperant mīlitāria signa revocāret. Ita tertiō triumphāns urbem ingressus est et appellātus
they-had-taken  military  standards recovered thus for-third-time triumphing  city       he entered and    called [was]
secundus Rōmulus, quasi et ipse patriae conditor.
second      Romulus    as-if  also  he   of-native-land founder
 
 
LIBER II
 
[1] Annō trecentēsimō sexāgēsimō quīntō ab urbe conditā, post captam autem prīmō,[2]
  In-year  threehundredth   sixtieth     fifth  from city founded   after  [its]   moreover first
dignitātēs mūtātae sunt, et prō duōbus cōnsulibus factī tribūnī mīlitārēs cōnsulārī potestāte.
offices       changed  were and  instead-of two   consuls   made [were] tribunes  military with-consular  power
Hinc iam coepit Rōmāna rēs crēscere. Nam Camillus eō annō Volscōrum cīvitātem,[3] quae
Henceforth now  began  Roman strength  to-grow for    Camillus   in-that year  of-Volsci    state        which
per septuāgintā annōs bellum gesserat, vīcit et Aequōrum urbem et Sūtrīnōrum atque omnibus
through  seventy     years    war    had-waged conquered and  of-Aequi  city  and  of-the Sutrini  and   with-all
dēlētīs eārundem exercitibus occupāvit et trēs simul triumphōs ēgit.[4]
destroyed  of-them    armies       occupied   and  three at-same-time triumphs  held
 
 [2] T. etiam Quīntius Cincinnātus Praenestīnōs, quī usque ad urbīs Rōmae portās cum bellō
   Titus  also   Quintius    Cincinnatus   the-Praenestinians who  up   to  of-city   Rome   gates  with   war

NOTES
[1] This event is dated to 390 B.C. in the traditional chronology devised by Varro in the 1st century B.C. However both this and many other dates given in these notes may be three or four years too early. See Jona Lendering’s essay at https://www.livius.org/articles/concept/varronian-chronology/ The Senones lived in the region around Rimini in NE Italy. See also chapter 25 of Ad Alpes.
[2] i.e. 389 B.C. Eutropius is mistaken here as the system of military tribunes was introduced in 444 B.C., with a decision made yearly whether tribunes or consuls should be elected, and tribunes appointed continuously in the years 408 -394 and 391-367. While Livy and other later historians thought the system was intended to meet plebeian demands for a share of political power without actually admitting them to the consulship, the aim may have been only to meet changing administrative and military needs as all the tribunes down to 400 B.C. were actually patricians. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribuni_militum_consulari_potestate
[3] The Volsci, a tribe living in southern Latium, spoke an Italic dialect related more closely to Oscan and Umbrian than to Latin and attested by a temple inscription from Velitrae (modern Velletri), the town from where the Octavii, the paternal clan of Augustus, originated. The inscription is discussed in Ernst Pulgram ‘The Volscian Tabula Veliterna: A New Interpretation’, Glotta, 54. Bd., 3./4. H. (1976), https://www.jstor.org/stable/40266373
[4] Whilst Camillus did repulse a Volscian invasion of Roman territory in 389 and also conquered the Aequi, taking their capital of Bola, he failed to capture Antium (Anzio), the Volscian capital. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Furius_Camillus The Sutrini were the citizens of Sutrium (modern Sutri) in Etruria. The Aequi occupied the hill north of Praeneste (see map on previous page)/

vēnerant, persecūtus ad flūmen Alliam vīcit, octo cīvitātēs, quae sub ipsīs agēbant, Rōmānīs
had-come    having-pursued to  river    Allia   defeated  eight  cities   which  under them were-acting  to-Romans
adiūnxit, ipsum Praeneste adgressūs in dēditiōnem accēpit. Quae omnia ab eō gesta sunt
joined     itself     Praeneste having-attacked into    surrender   received  which  all-things by him  done were
vīgintī diēbus, triumphusque ipsī dēcrētus.[1]
within-twenty days  and-triumph     for-him  decreed [was]
 
[3] Vērum dignitās tribūnōrum mīlitārium nōn diū persevērāvit. Nam post aliquantum nūllōs
    Indeed    office   o f-tribunes    military      not  for-long  endured     for  after      some-time  none
placuit   fierī et      quadriennium in urbe ita flūxit, ut       potestātēs ibi maiōrēs nōn
it-was-decided  to-be-appointed  for-four-years   in   city thus there-was-disturbance  that  authorities there  higher not
essent.[2]  Praesūmpsērunt tamen tribūnī mīlitārēs cōnsulārī potestāte iterum dignitātem et
there-were     assumed          therefore tribunes  military  with-consular   power   again   office      and
trienniō persevērāvērunt. Rūrsus cōnsulēs factī.
for-three-years they-lasted         again   consuls  appointed [were]
 
[4] L. Genuciō   et Q. Servīliō cōnsulibus[3] mortuus est Camillus. Honor eī post Rōmulum
 With-Lucius Genucius and Quintus Servilius  consuls          died     Camillus   honor  to-him after  Romulus
secundus dēlātus est.
second      paid  was
 
[5] T. Quīntius dictātor adversus Gallōs, quī ad Ītaliam vēnerant, missus est. Hī ab urbe quārtō
   Titus   Quintius  dictator against    Gauls    who  to   Italy   had-come   sent   was  These from city at 4th
mīliāriō trāns Anienem fluvium cōnsēderant. Ibi nōbilissimus dē senātōribus iuvenis L.
mile-stone across   Anio        river     had- settled  there  most-noble     from    senators    youth  Lucius
Mānlius prōvocantem[4] Gallum ad singulāre certāmen prōgressus occīdit, et sublātō 
Manlius offering-a-challenge     Gaul     to    single     combat     having-advanced killed and having-been-lifted-up
torque aureō colloque suō inpositō in perpetuum Torquātī et sibi et posterīs cognōmen accēpit.
necklace  golden and-on-neck own   placed  for  ever  of-Torquatus both for-self and for-descendants surname he-received
Gallī fugātī sunt, mox per C. Sulpicium dictātōrem etiam vīctī. Nōn multō post ā C. Marciō[5]
Gauls    routed were  soon   by  Gaius   Sulpicius   dictator   also  defeated not  much later by Gaius  Marcius
Tuscī vīctī sunt et octo mīlia captīvōrum ex hīs in triumphum ducta.[6]
Etruscans defeated were and  eight thousand captives  from them in   triumph      led

NOTES
[1] In c.480 B.C. Praeneste, now known as Palestrina, is the birthplace of composer Giovanni Palestrina
[2] A confused paragraph! There is evidence, however, that in least one year in the 360s no magistrates were elected and Livy seems to have assumed that this situation lasted four years so he could solve the chronological problem of four pairs of consuls apparently being missing from the official lists. See https://www.livius.org/articles/concept/varronian-chronology/
[3] 365 B.C.
[4] The accusative termination -em shows that it was the Gaul, not Torquatus, who issued the original challenge. The incident is traditionally dated to 361 B.C. and Manlius’s praenomen given as Titus.
[5] Gaius Marcius Rutilus, the first plebeian dictator and censor. After the first of his four consulships he was appointed dictator in 356 B.C. and after repelling an Etruscan invasion was granted a triumph despite senatorial opposition. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Marcius_Rutilus
[6] Captives were regularly killed after being paraded in a triumph.

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